Subject: One4Zion Date: Mon, 16 Jan 1995 12:05:01 -0800 (417 lines) From: philjohn@garnet.berkeley.edu (Phillip Johnson) Message-Id: <199501162005.MAA11228@garnet.berkeley.edu> To: rethinkaids@uclink.berkeley.edu To: Rethinkaids Reflector Group Re: One4Zion A person calling himself only One4Zion has made postings to this group. Three days ago I notified him that I was aware that he had been misrepresenting his identity, and that I was dropping him from the reflector list. Subsequently I mailed him the explanation you see below. I wanted to give him time to reply before doing anything further. Not having heard from him in 3 days, I am forwarding this memo to the group. If a person styling himself this way contacts you, you may draw your own conclusions about his identity. To: "One4Zion" Re: Facts pertaining to your identity My comments are in brackets: the rest is from email files. [First, One4Zion sent me a message asking to be put on the rethinkaids reflector. I did so, but also asked him to tell me something about himself and what his interest in HIV/AIDS was.] From: One4Zion@aol.com Date: Wed, 4 Jan 1995 03:39:56 -0500 To: philjohn@uclink.berkeley.edu Subject: Re: No Subject Dear Professor Johnson, do you know anything about the following article? Is it true? It was e-mailed to me by a friend of mine. By the way, in answer to your inquiry about my identity, my name is Yoni Netanyahu, I am a citizen of Israel and have been in the states for almost a year now. I love this country, but it's high time I returned to my homeland. I'll probably be here for another 6 months--if they let me. I can't wait to bring all this AIDS info. back to Israel!!! PHILLIP JOHNSON ON TRIAL The Attempt to Censor the Ellison/Duesberg Book by Joel A. Schwartz and Bryan J. Ellison * * * [At the time I did not recognize the name "Yoni Netanyahu," but I now know it to be the name of the Israeli military hero who was killed leading the rescue of the hostages at Entebbe. I responded briefly that no one with knowledge of the facts was taking the Ellison charges seriously. Below is One4Zion's prompt reply.] >From One4Zion@aol.com Wed Jan 4 19:43:14 1995 Date: Wed, 4 Jan 1995 22:44:02 -0500 Message-Id: <950104224355_7215891@aol.com> To: philjohn@garnet.berkeley.edu Subject: Re: Ellison Status: RO If the charges made against you are false or misleading, perhaps you should write a rebuttal to the publication to set the record straight. I certainly would not let such a story about me go unanswered. How does one get in-touch with Ellison or Duesberg for comment? [The next day, by coincidence, John Lauritsen advised me as follows:] Date: Thu, 5 Jan 1995 21:31:04 -0500 (EST) From: John Lauritsen To: philjohn@garnet.berkeley.edu Cc: cathomas@netcom.com Subject: One4Zion (???) Phil, I am still subscribed to the aids-d discussion group (moderation of sci.med.aids). The following two items concern you: Date: Wed, 4 Jan 1995 21:09:38 -0600 From: "sci.med.aids" To: one4zion@aol.com (One 4 Zion) Cc: aids-d@zuni.chaco.com Reply-To: aids-d@zuni.chaco.com Subject: sci.med.aids [20436] Duesberg controversy Dear one4zion@aol.com (One 4 Zion), Your posting has been voted down by the moderators. If you have important information, we urge you to spend the time to revise your article and resubmit. Please consult the sci.med.aids FAQ for more information. The vote was: Yes: No: Jeff Rizzo -11,Jack Hamilton -11 Moderator Jeff Rizzo voted No for this reason: Your posting is possibly a copyright violation. You can submit very brief excerpts of articles under the U.S. copyright fair-use guidelines, if you are providing a review or critique. Otherwise, we ask that you summarize the material in your own words, and provide a reference to the original. Frequently you can obtain permission to resubmit articles and other manuscripts from the publisher. This is possible even with formal scientific journals, such as Nature or Science. If you do seek permission, you can remind the publisher that redistribution of this newsgroup is restricted to non-commercial use. If you obtain permission, be sure to state exactly the conditions under which the permission was granted, and please reproduce the copyright statement verbatim, such as: Copyright 1994, Nature, Inc. All rights reserved. I obtained permission from Nature magazine to reproduce this article. Permission was only granted to distribute to this newsgroup, but not to print, save, or photocopy the article. Moderator Jack Hamilton voted No for the same reason. If you think this rejection was inappropriate, or you just want to talk to a real human, reply to the individual moderators, or to aids-d@chaco.com, the moderation discussion list for sci.med.aids. Please include this rejection note, including your original posting, in your mail. Here is your original article: -------------------------------------- From: one4zion@aol.com (One 4 Zion) Newsgroups: sci.med.aids Approved: Subject: Duesberg controversy Reply-To: one4zion@aol.com (One 4 Zion) Date: Wed, 4 Jan 1995 02:36:12 CDT Organization: America Online, Inc. (1-800-827-6364) Does anyone know anything about the following article? It was e-mailed to me by a friend of mine and was printed in a journal that champions Prof. Duesberg's views called Rethinking AIDS. I guess battling it out with the AIDS establishment wasn't enough, now they're battling each other. By the way, I just got a copy of Duesberg's book, it's fantastic!!! PHILLIP JOHNSON ON TRIAL The Attempt to Censor the Ellison/Duesberg Book by Joel A. Schwartz and Bryan J. Ellison * * * Date: Thu, 5 Jan 1995 14:30:36 -0500 From: One4Zion@aol.com Message-Id: <950105142439_7785837@aol.com> To: aids-d@zuni.chaco.com Subject: Re: sci.med.aids [20436] Duesberg controversy [quotes deleted - JL] I have since contacted the publisher of Rethinking AIDS, and he contacted the authors, Joel Schwartz and Bryan J. Ellison. All have agreed to let it be posted. The copyright is as follows... Copyright 1994, Rethinking AIDS, All rights reserved. [One4Zion seems to have solved the copyright problem speedily, although the day before he had asked me how to get in touch with Ellison or Duesberg. Nonetheless, as far as I know, the "Phillip Johnson on Trial" paper has not appeared on sci.med.aids. I sent a response to the Ellison paper to the rethinkaids reflector. It was quickly answered by the following message from One4Zion, who claimed to have contacted Ellison and recorded his reaction verbatim. Note the attention to details of price and address, which would be important to a person whose main interest was in selling books but which would not have been recorded that way by a stranger who had telephoned Ellison to read him my response and get a reaction.] From: One4Zion@aol.com Date: Tue, 10 Jan 1995 22:38:53 -0500 To: rethinkaids@uclink.berkeley.edu Subject: Ellison's responds to Phil Johnson Status: RO I was able to get in contact with Bryan Ellison about Phil Johnson's reply to the Rethinking AIDS article entitled "Phil Johnson on Trial." When I read him Johnson's reply he laughed and said, and I quote, "Phil Johnson can't hide behind Peter Duesberg's skirts forever. Look, let them judge for themselves; if they want the full, unadulterated, unabridged manuscript then they should send a check for $19.95 plus $2.00 shipping to INSIDE STORY COMMUNICATIONS. I'll even give them a money back guarantee." For those interested in obtaining the book, the address is Inside Story Communications 190 El Cerrito Plaza, #201 Dept. A20 El Cerrito, CA 94530 Following is the January Rethinking AIDS article Ellison is referring to: PHILLIP JOHNSON ON TRIAL The Attempt to Censor the Ellison/Duesberg Book by Joel A. Schwartz and Bryan J. Ellison * * * [My growing suspicions about the identity of One4Zion grew further when I heard from Mark Craddock, who reported that One4Zion had contacted him first with the "Phillip Johnson on Trial" paper, and then with an implausible story about how the St. Martin's editor has supposedly quit over the outrageous treatment of Ellison by his boss. Mark characterized One4Zion's messages and the Ellison paper as rubbish, and conveyed to me his suspicion that One4Zion might be Ellison or Schwartz. Mark subsequently located and sent me the exact text of One4Zion's message.] markc@solution.maths.unsw.edu.au Date: Thu, 12 Jan 1995 13:13:00 +1100 Message-Id: <9501120213.AA12051@solution> To: philjohn@garnet.berkeley.edu Subject: Re: One4Zion Dear Phil, here is the email that One4Zion sent me regarding the St Martin's editor. Date: Thu, 5 Jan 1995 20:49:01 -0500 From: One4Zion@aol.com Message-Id: <950105204853_8107465@aol.com> To: markc@solution Subject: Re: HIV free AIDS cases How do you know all this about the negotiations between Duesberg, Ellison, and St. Martin's? I just received an e-mail from someone who said that the book's editor was so insenced over his boss's heavy handed editing demands that he quite, after 17 years as St. Martin's Senior Editor, and went with crown. So far this is just an unconfirmed e-mail, but it is starting to seem that there is more here than meets the eye. [This caused me to search my own email files, and I found the following message forwarded to me from John Lauritsen from September. Note that One4Zion, who on Jan. 4, 1995 wrote to the moderators of sci.med.aids that he had "just got" a copy of the "Duesberg book," had actually advertised the book on the internet 4 months earlier. Note also how the advertisement portrays Ellison as if he were a scientist of a stature comparable to Duesberg and the other distinguished names mentioned.] >From misc.health.alternative Sat Sep 10 10:16:34 1994 Path: From: one4zion@aol.com (One 4 Zion) Newsgroups: misc.health.alternative Subject: AIDS mystery finally solved??? Date: 5 Sep 1994 04:04:03 -0400 Organization: America Online, Inc. (1-800-827-6364) Lines: 47 Sender: news@search01.news.aol.com The AIDS Scandal that Medical Authorities Are Trying to Hide (ADDRESS BELOW) A new book written by U.C. Berkeley molecular and cell biologists Bryan J. Ellison and Peter H. Duesberg explains why hundreds of top scientists are breaking ranks with the medical establishment. The "AIDS virus," as it turns out, may be harmless, and something else may be the real cause of AIDS. Recently, the ABC Television program "Nightline" featured several top biomedical researchers, including the latest winner of the Nobel Prize for Chemistry. These highly respected scientists were openly challenging their peers, arguing that HIV, the virus blamed for AIDS during the past ten years, may not really be causing the epidemic. These same dissenting scientists were aired on the ABC program "Day One" several months earlier. Their case has been presented on hundreds of local television programs and radio talk shows around the country, as well as in such publications as Policy Review, National Review, The American Spectator, Insight, Reason, Omni, Discover, Commentary, World, and The New American. In England, they have appeared several times on Channel Four Television in London, while the Sunday Times of London, second only to the New York Times in worldwide circulation, has for two years consistently championed their cause. Now the two scientists leading this nationwide controversy tell their full story in a startling new book, "Why We Will NEVER Win the War on AIDS." Joining Ellison and Duesberg have been such notable researchers as Dr. Kary Mullis, Nobel laureate in Chemistry, as well as Nobel laureates Walter Gilbert of Harvard University and Barbara McClintock of the Cold Spring Harbor Research Facility. Harry Rubin, widely considered the father of modern retrovirus research, for which he has received the Lasker Prize and membership in the National Academy of Sciences, has also spoken out with Duesberg. Indeed, the list keeps growing, and now includes former Harvard biochemistry professor Charles A. Thomas, physiology professor Robert Root-Bernstein of Michigan State University, research editor Harvey Bialy of the journal Bio/Technology, British epidemiologist Gordon Stewart, and virology director Beverly Griffin of the Royal Postgraduate Medical School in London. Because of its controversial, no-punches-pulled approach to telling the whole truth, this book has been cancelled with major publishing houses even after the authors had been paid advance money. But now Inside Story Communications is publishing the full, unabridged, and undiluted edition of Why We Will NEVER Win the War on AIDS. A 300-page quality paperback, the book is available for $19.95 plus $2.00 shipping. Send Checks or money orders to Inside Story Dept. Q1, 3463 State St. #135, Santa Barbara CA, 93105. [After reading that advertisement, I was persuaded that "One4Zion" is either Bryan Ellison or someone close to him. Although he did not know all these facts, Fred Cline knew enough to make the essential ethical point.] From: Facpat@AOL.COM Date: Wed, 11 Jan 1995 20:14:16 -0500 To: rethinkaids@uclink.berkeley.edu Subject: Phil Johnson One4 Zion stikes a blow, or so he/she thinks, but refuses to give their name in the members' directory of AOL to which I am also a subscriber. Such anonymous hit & run tactics are anathema to the democratic process. I would just point out that Phil Johnson is the one who set up this reflector where there is no censorship at all. If he had some hidden agenda, this is hardly the way to proceed. Perhaps it is the other way around and One4Zion has the hidden agenda. Please let us all know who you are or be quiet! This controversy is becoming a little wearisome to all of us who are really interested in the central issues revovling around the HIV/AIDS subject. We will go on with or without DAS BUCH (as Peter Duesberg refers to it). In the meantime, far too much energy has been wasted on this issue. I urge all those who read this to not take sides. Stick to the subject at hand. As a person who is on the scene here in San Francisco/Berkeley I can tell everyone around the world that there is no reason for mistrust of any of those who are supporting this reflector or of Reappraising Aids. I do not see this thing degenerating, as our dear friend in Germany said at its beginning--on the contrary it is becoming a real force in the effort to bring a change in a faulty paradigm which threatens us all. Come out into the open One4Zion and let us know your name. Fred Cline, San Francisco [So I wrote to One4Zion to see what he would say:] Date: Thu, 12 Jan 1995 11:43:33 -0800 From: philjohn (Phillip Johnson) To: one4zion@aol.com Subject: Your Identity There is a widespread feeling on the rethinkaids reflector that it is inappropriate to send communications to the reflector anonymously. For all anyone knows, for example, it is even possible that "One4Zion" could be Bryan Ellison himself. All other persons on the reflector except yourself sign their communications, and thus take responsibility for what they say. Are you prepared to disclose your identity to the reflector, or should I tell the group that you have refused to do so? Phillip Johnson [The reply:] From: One4Zion@aol.com Date: Fri, 13 Jan 1995 07:54:49 -0500 To: philjohn@garnet.berkeley.edu Subject: Re: Your Identity I'm not sure what you are talking about. I informed you of my identity when I joined the reflector list. If it is my screen name that is troubling people then I shall henceforth commence signing my e-mails to the reflector. I can assure you that there was nothing deliberate or calculating in my not signing them. It is common practice on America On-line to use screen names that one identifies with or that one finds humorous. Indeed, this is the first time my screen name has ever created suspicion. Sorry for the misunderstanding. **Y. Netanyahu** [The office of America On Line, citing their agreement with subscribers, refused to supply the true identity of One4Zion, or even to confirm whether "Yoni Netanyahu" was his name on their billing records. Since "Yoni Netanyahu" had chosen not to be identified in the AOL directory, it was therefore impossible to confirm his identification. In light of the other evidence, I notified "Yoni Netanyahu" that I was removing him from the reflector group until he could furnish satisfactory proof of his identity. If it should turn out that his true name actually is Yoni Netanyahu, and he actually is an Israeli citizen temporarily in the United States, bearing the name of Israel's most distinguished modern military hero, then I will owe him an apology -- although the pattern of his postings will still suggest a closer relation with Ellison than he has revealed.] Phillip Johnson