Subject: Re: The Group Date: Thu, 5 Dec 1996 22:27:17 -0500 (39 lines of text) From: Facpat at aol.com Yola, You are part of the problem. You poke your head out of the swamp like an alligator and don't tell us anything about yourself or how long you have been lurking. This conflict between me and the former moderators of the previous reflector and the present gruesome twosome (it used to be three) goes way back to the previous reflector which was terminated because of the present same phenomenon which took place there. I withdrew early on with that one. It might appear all innocent to you if you have just come on and have only part of the story, but it is ANYTHING but innocent. Do you know what an idee fixe is in psychology? Well, these people have an idee fixe on the rearend. Can't seem to shake it. And furthermore, they think that it is only gay men who engage in such practices when most of the those who practice it are heteros. I finally QUIT the other one and the other moderators finally shut it down in self-defense. I am still in contact with them. There is NO QUELLING the gruesome twosome over the anal thing. They are totally irrational about it. It is a totally idiotic theory that has seen its day and ought to be buried. I ask you to withold judgement and to participate in the discussion. If you do not participate, and do not stay around to know the players you cannot understand the depth of feelings that we might have. This is psychodrama. I would quit this group again, but there are those who urge me to continue. This is an UNMODERATED group, so that the philosophy is let the crap fly. The only thing I can tell you is to just delete what you don't like. The other groups and the BBs are not much better. I have seen things from there that would make your hair curl (assuming that you have hair). Best regards, Fred Cline, San Francisco