Subject: Here we go again (finis). Date: Thu, 5 Dec 1996 14:31:07 -0500 (34 lines of text) From: Facpat at aol.com At the request of a good friend, I am terminating this thread. I would like to restate my principles: (1) I believe in dialogue to change others' minds. It has proven itself in the post-WWII era and is a necessary part of human interaction. (2) I have had extensive discussions with Peter Duesberg, the acknowledged leader of the dissident camp in this country, and he confirms what I say about anal insemination having NOTHING to do with AIDS. My opinions are therefore informed opinions and not coming from any "PC" point of view. (3) I reiterate my fear that AIDS is doing MORE damage to society by instilling FEAR and preventing free sexuality than in any other area of human activity. To speak about anal sex leading to AIDS contributes directly to this fear and thus the growing pathological thinking about sex. This can ultimately lead to a new wave of puritanism and perhaps even fascism. (4) I have tried to have an intelligent discussion about this, but see that it is impossible in this forum. I am therefore refusing to answer any further questions regarding this subject here. (5) I will let Michael Wright have the last word. He wrote: (12/4/96) Sorry to disappoint you, Fred, but I'm not trying to effect any fundamental change in myself. I'm content with myself the way I am. [end quote] This is not my view of things. I believe that there is ONLY change and my ideas will continue to evolve and change over the years, and I hope in the direction of more love of every kind WITHOUT fear. I will repeat: The very idea that any act of love could lead to death is diabolical. Sorry, this is the end, rant and rave as you will, I will not answer any more questions on this subject. Fred Cline, San Francisco